Hi ya all, it was a great show last weekend and i was really impressed by some of the state of the art systems.

well i just wanted to create a discussion on power conditioning on our hifi equipments and there would be a pole i like ppl to vote on how important is power conditioning .

i myself do believe that it is really important to feed clean power into your system so that the components work well and work at best condition.

i have been trying to understand this but somehow would also like many ppls opnion and what would be the best way to condition your power if required.

there are a lot of technologies and technique to power conditioning.

the easiest way is to get one conditioner and there you go.

is there any difference and is it worth spending that money. i know a simple soundstage avr doesnt come cheap, at least 1.8K from tong lee and ps audio also dont come cheap.

some second hand power plant cost 10K and some 5K and so on.

how do we calculate on how much conditioning that is required. this also includes power cable.
siltech 1m silver power cable cost 1K and above. and not factory terminate. locally made. How come so expensive ppl still spend on it.

richard gray power company, also dont come cheap and ppl use it. any expereince that you like to share ?

any of you guys there dont change or believe in power cable performance?

why im writing this is that, i just wonder, everytime i go for a demo in the hifi shop, there is always some difference, then you buy, then you plug then you feel that it might not have difference.

any of you guys had this experience?

i also notice a new power conditioner in the show was iso clean, too bad i didnt took the time to talk to the guy selling the product and i bet it dont come that cheap.

so what do you guys think ?

Hi,

For me, 1st & foremost important is room acoustic/treatment then only power supply and that's why when you audition at hifi shop would be diff at home. No doubt that power corrupt may interfere the ability of certain equipments to perform to the fullest.

I'm a Naim user, adding a power conditioning will not do justice to the equipment. RGPC will not work with Naim and I have made a dedicated main spur for amplification. That's mean, no other equipment or power plug is sharing with my amp and it's directly tapped from main fuse (box) with dedicated 32A fuse for it. The different is obvious, more Slam & bass...same effect with my previous Krell KSA80B amp.

In general, I think the source is the most important to be isolated from main's corrupt (not apply to naim CDP). But, pls bear in mind that actually power corrupt/noise can be minimised by switching off flourecent light or change with energy saving bulb, do not use light dimmer (noise). If you use air conditioning, try to put ferrite clamp at each power supply for a/c and refrigerator too.

That's why sometime you feel the sound is much more better at 11-12 at night due to less people using the electricity=less corrupt.


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Get a RGPC and there's no turning back. I am using a 400MKII and 400 Pro now. I use Harmonic Tech Fantasy to power the 400MKII and the 400 Pro plugged into the 400MKII.

Prior to this, I had a Transparent PowerBank 8. As you know, series conditioning does not do justice to power hungry application. Hence, RGPC took its place and indeed performed much better. AVR, being series conditioner is only good for low power application. RGPC is still the most versatile and effective to me till date.

No matter how good the room is, when the power quality hits bottom, you'll suffer if your setup is resolved enough. The mids hardens and the highs becomes splashy. Use a voltmeter and observe how the sound changes as the voltage fluctuates. One song is enough for a rollercoaster ride when the worst case hits.

Never use silver for high power/current application, their magic would be lost when used in high current application. I use Stealth Cloude 9 Full AC pure silver powercord for my pre amp and there is no turning back to copper. Lucky my CDP and power amp come with captive cords, else, more money for more cords.

At my place, the sound is the best in the morning when everyone is rushing to work, nobody uses anything except brushing and washing up. At nite, when ppl starts to reach home and use heater for shower and A/C for bedroom, then nothing can help you. Well, maybe 2 RGPCs would, like my case.

As for IsoClean, I heard good comments from their isolated transformers. Won't be getting them for home audition as they don't look that good and I don't wanna spend any money for now.

As for Naim, a friend of mine who's using full Naim once told me that they are immune to power conditioning. I have no idea at all as I do not use full Naim, except the CD5x for a short period of time. They are indeed a very special breed!

Yes, I agree power conditioning RGPC is worth considering in your case.

Yes, you put the right way the naim are immune to power conditioning, infact they did try and all the prat are collapse.

As for the room treatment. I've read few books on proper hifi setup and they are talking about it as 1st priority. In London there are fews hifi dealers that specialise in home/room treatment or setup and I do get ideas from them. Same equipment in diff room=diff sound. even with a modest setup of hifi can sound very musical if setup properly in dedicated room. There's one guy (forum Audiogon) from US bought a new house but couldn' get the same sound as the old room (old house). What he did was, re-treat the room....


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Last edited by hi5 on Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:06 am; edited 1 time in total

hey guys... i have just noticed that the power supply in my house is much noisier than other power supplies elsewhere. anyone of you know where to get a reliable power conditioner or anyway of solving this problem? thanks alot

It would seem some gears are more resposive to power conditioners than others. That's the conclusion that I came to after playing around with some of my own gear.

My Marantz CDP, MF Pre amp & Rega TT response to EMI power filters positively. My Pass power amps doesn't like EMI power filters, but doesn't sound much better with an AVR either. My DIY Phonostage does respond positively with the AVR but doesn't like the EMI power filter.

Funny isn't it?
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hehe, very cute girl, must be some taiwan actress

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eh, can i ask, who is that girl in the avatar ah. ? hehe, very cute girl, must be some taiwan actress

don't know.....but she's so lovely.....he...he
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