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Vic

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Hi Skareb,

you wrote................


Hifi is about money, if you want better sound you pay for it, unless you guys have a way around this then PLEASE share Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


/I thought hifi is not only about $$$$ but of passion too!
There is! But would you believe me if I tell you room treatments
helps hello alot?........stretch the performance of your equipments
to the maximum for that price range(better say this before anyone
decides to flame me)..............you want a another higher level of
enjoyment.....then got to spend more $$$$$ lor!


Unlike other hobbies I'm into e.g fishing, you own a decent rod n reel and the rest depends on your determination and skill and so are cycling, we can built our stamina. But hifi? the more you learn the more you pay.


/Maybe there will come a time......when you learn more, you no
longer wants to pay more to acquire more..........sort of like
taking 1 big round and back to the beginning again....when
everything else is simpler....with less headaches and heartaches!


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Vic wrote:
Hi Skareb,
I thought hifi is not only about $$$$ but of passion too!
There is! But would you believe me if I tell you room treatments
helps hello alot?........stretch the performance of your equipments
to the maximum for that price range(better say this before anyone
decides to flame me)..............you want a another higher level of
enjoyment.....then got to spend more $$$$$ lor!
Laughing Laughing Laughing


Vic, when you wanna improve anything in hifi you gotta spend money right? And I believe there're only very few things that is free, like taking away my 4' glass coffee table in front of the speakers!.

Room treatment is about fine tuning, unless you have a rediculous room that cannot play music then it becomes a must have otherwise I believe its something you do after all your equipment comes in place. (ok I maybe wrong but I still feel its subjective)

I duno about you folks but sometimes hifi is also about the pride of owning such and such brand or technology. Thats the passion! otherwise isn't it better we all just learn music and have gathering maybe 4 or 5 of us can form a JAZZ band and played over each of our houses alternatively? mmmm...we can have whatever staging we want Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Vic wrote:
Hi Skareb,
Maybe there will come a time......when you learn more, you no
longer wants to pay more to acquire more..........sort of like
taking 1 big round and back to the beginning again....when
everything else is simpler....with less headaches and heartaches!
Laughing Laughing Laughing


Well once you know things like imaging, 3D staging, its kinda hard to bear with anything less unless you give up with this hobby and stick to basic...maybe Ipod.

You see whats the passion of hifi? just listening to music? NO its about chasing the sonic to the end or to our budgets permit. Unlike cycling we're inspired by ppl who cycle around malaysia or crossing stateline and then we train our mind and body to endure the sufferings to achieve the unachievable.

Anyway I don't find it bad if you wanna own a whole naim setup costing half a mil, thats your money you spend it if its worth to you. We cannot go around judging ppl, but I was just expressing the frustration cos I'm financially challenged Very Happy

BTW I'm interested in your room treatment, I'm getting this irritating midband bouncing around. My walls are all concrete pre-fab which isnt helping a lot and making everything sounding bright. And Plus I'm such a genious to have a 5' glass dinner table and a 4' glass coffee table which I CANNOT remove or my mrs would kill me.

And I cannot carpet the place I've a tomcat at home too Wink
Vic

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Hi Skareb,


You got some points that are 'generally acceptable' by the masses.
Want more got to have more $$$$,


Room treatments could be considered about fine tuning to the
listeners in the less than 45 age group. Above that age group
the room treatments must include the corrections for reverbaration
time of the sound generated in the room; because the reverb time
affects the hearing ability of elderly listeners much more than
younger listeners, and will distort, alter or mask out the other incoming sound to the ears. So the room treatments could be
considered as enable the elderly listeners to listen to music
playback more easily.

If elderly listeners are to continue to enjoy music from their hifi
sysems as before they are affected careful room treatments
must be look into. Or else these elderly listeners will enjoy less of
the music and not aware/aware of the differences but thought the
equipments are at fault.

There we were at the KLIAV and adjouned for a drink at the
refreshment area, open air but under a canopy. The reverberation
time was so bad that the 3 senior citizens could hardly make out
what the other 3 younger guys were talking about. The 3 younger
guys had no trouble hearing while the older guys had to raise their
voices a bit as we can't even hear the conversation well. This is
1 example of hearing disability.


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