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Vic

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Very Happy Good morning to all, & a good job of cleanng up to the
administrator&/or moderators!!!! Smile Smile


It's like 'born again' here!!! Laughing


Ok, on the subject of subwoofers......subwoofers with some sort
of servo units/circuitries for control of the drivers will make or
break the overall performance of the whole subwoofer system!!!
Subwoofers without this added advantage just do not cut well! Crying or Very sad
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vic,
the 4 subbies are Twisted Evil . kudos!
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Yes Cleaned up at last.
So Vic REL subs are no good? They don't use servo!
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I've been chasing admin with emails for so long and thanks now they have done it.

Few of members here I think do received my email about this site about 3-4 months back. I've taken their email at the audiomart and introduce to them.....
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Hi Billy,


So Vic REL subs are no good? They don't use servo!


/Servos are more applicable with active subwoofers than passive ones. Servos provide more control than those without it; that's
just about it. Hence, could expect better performances.


/With servos easier for users to manipulate, without servos
more work to be done, but users still get there with the sound.
Eg. scaling down of the bass/ low hz for the overall soundstage
with the rest of the imagings. With servos subwoofer enthusiasts
could use multiple subwoofers for desired effects or to try out
other effects on HT or even stereo only systems.


/Hope this helps. It comes down to what you want to do with
your system, and may not be what the generally acceptable
practice of the masses. However, subwoofers with some sort
of EQing facilities do come with servos for ease of operation
and may not be just a good selling point.
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What's a good servo based sub? Is this technology not expensive?
Someone mentioned James EMB1000 as a really good sub. Any idea as to who sells them and how much they costs?
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Billy wrote:
What's a good servo based sub? Is this technology not expensive?
Someone mentioned James EMB1000 as a really good sub. Any idea as to who sells them and how much they costs?


contact Audio Image - Adrian
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What's a good servo based sub? Is this technology not expensive?
Someone mentioned James EMB1000 as a really good sub. Any idea as to who sells them and how much they costs?

/Nowadays the servo based subs are usually the active digital servos;
3rd party manufactures it and the sub makers just install them into
their subs; pretty much work the same way like any other subs.
There are however some sub specialists with their own versions
of servo controls with special or unique features, so may command
a slightly higher price point!

Servos up until now, is still not yet the domain of diyers, it's
something the diyers can't 'touch' yet, because of the hi-tech
involved, as some design are not standardised but proprietary!
These are usually the active type. However, there are several
passive type that are no longer in use except for the very hi-end
subs makers as it's no longer cost effective to do so. As the
manufacturing & installing is more labour intensive than
mechanical! This type of design is still accessible by diyers
and still a favourite amongst hifi enthusiasts as it's a minimalist
design and affect the sound very little. This is the type I installed
into my multiple subs, took quite a long while to do it.


The James subs has a good review, and users are happy with
the performance. By the way there are differences with the use
of just 1 sub for mono bass and 2 subs for left & right channel
used as stereo pair. Slightly different information in their output,
but if can't hear the difference then there isn't a need to do so.
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Vic,

just to share. I've contacted Sujesh from the star and he told me that the star hifi forum is now in the making and soon we'll be able to do like those days in the star hifi forum.

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Smile Star forum? That will be nice! Lost touch with the guys from
Star forum & Xpression forum too! Were you guys there at the star
forum? It was at the Xpression forum that I meet a few guys, who
mooted the idea of a hifi club....and Klans mailing list was borned!
And everything was history after that!
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I was in the star forum same as saucywkc and I think that's the best forum so far......


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hi5 wrote:
I was in the star forum same as saucywkc and I think that's the best forum so far......

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nah, i think your avatar's BEST! Laughing
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Smile Hi Hi5


You wrote.............

I was in the star forum same as saucywkc and I think that's the
best forum so far......

/I met KC too at Star forum, and I introduce him to Klans mailing list,
but later left. I've been around with KC for some time, visited
several sytems with him. You know him well? As we moved on,
everyone changes in their views over hifi matters, and tended to
look for new grounds to 'break'!


/Star forum was good then, quite free to talk almost anything,
I remember some forumers even took on Sujesh over some
equipments reviews. Colourful discussions then, but could pretty
much get out of hand sometimes. Unlike the Klans, alot of
restrictions have been set/ put in place, but can't be help,
as some hifi enthusiasts do get very emotional & at times
very indifferent about some views and tended to push
their ideas thru sometimes forcibly 'down somebody's throat'
so to speak!
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ai ya, music is for pleasure listening, i like like this like this lah, why should i follow you? haha, i mean, there are no rules in hifi,. as long as it has the basics, bass, treble, mids and stage and depth, it is listenable,

what if you are like those like me, mood listening kind of ppl.

eg. if i own a system that is great for warmth and not good for rock, so that system is great for that, but the listener i bound to the characteristics of the system, the listener is not in control.

what if you own a system that plays every music so well that it obeys to your music listening demands.

means thtat suddenly today i wanna listen to rock, i can listen, when i wanna listen to classical i can and enjoy it, how about that huh?
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Smile Hi Guys, did you realised how popular is this thread.?.....it's
read/viewed 7,600(coming to this figure) already. This either mean
there are many audiophiles out there looking for the 'elixir' to
improve the low hz contents of their systems, or they are just
curious as to the use of multiple subwoofers, if it's hype or not. Smile


Why don't you guys drop me a line if you want a listen? Will show
you the 'elixir' too!

vicwongwl@hotmail.com

I'm afraid I could only accomodate
you if you are also in the Klang Valley. Smile
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